ObamaCare and the Fall of the Republic

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A country cannot remain a superpower without a powerful military. And we simply cannot maintain our current military’s level of power if the entitlements continue to multiply.

Read military analyst Max Boot’s article in the WSJ, concerning ObamaCare and the future of American power.

8 thoughts on “ObamaCare and the Fall of the Republic

    Amos Volante said:
    April 17, 2010 at 2:57 am

    I have to chime in with some disagreement regarding the healthcare bill as a solo issue since it’s been alluded to, albeit not the subject here:

    Sorry to all my right wing friends. I agree with you idealistically, but not realistically.

    Every mother***** reading this post will be on Medicare part A and B, and probably D on the month they turn 65. We ride mummy & daddy’s healthcare all the way up to 22, if we stay in college (assuming mum or pop have it).

    During the time from 22-65 if we drop below a certain income level we get state medicaid. If we become disabled, physically OR mentally, we get our Medicare Part A, B, and D at ANY age we become disabled. So, if you’re a schizoid and shatter your knee, the government fixes it free, even if you’re 25.

    Everyone in the military, on military disability, or retired from the military, including all dependents and even some ex-wives, are on a system called Tri-Care. It has some flaws, but essentially amounts to 100% free doctors’ visits with no deductible. Contrary to myth, Tri-Care has NOT gotten worse over the last 10 years.

    All federal employees (America’s largest employer) get their choice of many private providers at affordable rates only a moron would decline.

    Almost every city, county, state, and university, public or private, in America has health coverage, often free if you only cover yourself.

    So, who’s left hacking it out on the ‘free economy’ for healthcare?


    I always make over all income levels for discounts, I’m not disabled, not in the military, and I’m nowhere near 65. And what does my Blue Cross/Blue Shield cost? Not much less than what I paid when I bought it without an employer discount:

    $150 a month.

    I benefit the least from the healthcare reform, yet millions of rednecks who have either no coverage, or medicaid, hate the idea of national healthcare reform.

    If you hate it:

    Fill out and return the Medicare Declination form when you turn 65, and don’t accept your social security check.

    That check was once called “Socialist Security” by conservatives when it started and Medicare was called “Medicommunism” by the same folks.

    The only issue here is cost:

    The streamlining and medicare tax will reduce that tremendously.

    We are not France and we are not Greece.

    Healthcare reform is overdue. My God, even Olympia Snowe voted against it! WTF?

    No more kickbacks from the methodone clinics maybe? Her district is full of them, while owners of the providers bilk the government out of billions.

    This is my point: The cost already exists. It’s just being shifted to your own care, instead of some guy’s collection of 500 vintage Porsches and Ferraris housed at his $100M home.

    Tax burden? Maybe the same, maybe a bit more, but not much more.

    Take a look at how much FICA comes out of your own paycheck. Ain’t much, huh? It’ll be a third of your income when you’re ancient, maybe more if you’re unlucky.

    Yes, it’s a tax. I paid $250 this whole month in OASDI. I make about $71,000 a year. I’m not crying. I hardly notice it. And they offset by not taxing my 401K. That’s another $15,000 a year that ALL MINE!

    Reality check: Healthcare Reform: Good if executed as well as social security was.

    Remember: Socialist Security & Medicommunism!

    Run for your mountain bunker and lock & load!

    Amos Volante said:
    April 17, 2010 at 3:14 am

    Before anyone accuses me of exaggerating:

    My Blue Cross does in fact cost about $200 a month for the basic plan, not $150 as I stated above.

    magus71 responded:
    April 17, 2010 at 7:01 am

    But Amos, you just made the point in your first comment: Who is it exactly that isn’t covered? Who are these people? When have you, or anyone you know not been able to get medical attention?

    That is the way this healthcare bill was sold: With the dems saying that there are millions of people who can’t get medical care. Bullcrap. I remember when i was dirt poor and destroyed both my knees. Guess what? I had 5 surgeries without healthcare.

    So you really think that healthcare with more government control is good? I mean really, the government is going to FINE people for NOT having health insurance. And somehow the Dems got away with telling us that the insurance companies are the enemy. Well now they’re an enemy that has a product we HAVE to buy. I want to run a business where the government orders people to buy my product. Great for business.

    But bottom line: Where are these armies of people who can’t get medical care in the US? As a police officer, I never saw them. Any drunk homeless dude I took to the hospital after a car ran him over got an MRI. For free. Me? I got one MRI per year on my insurance policy for which I paid thousands a year. Thousands more than the homeless guy paid.

    Amos Volante said:
    April 18, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    It’s all going to depend on how it is structured, but yes; it can be better than the current system. Social Security could have been a disaster if it had been expensive or created a system that crushed private retirement systems, but it did neither.

    This will be just as good: If done right.

    magus71 responded:
    April 19, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    And Social security is going broke. Only about 20 years left. Then it’s Greece in the Word.

    Amos Volante said:
    April 22, 2010 at 1:09 am

    Social Security is not going broke: It is funded by FICA/OASDI, which comes out of your check. It can’t go broke.

    The trust fund will begin to reduce total monthly benefit amount in about 27 years, if the tax is not raised.

    Based on the article in Weekly Standard, even with the writer’s doom & gloom, it’s still divided over the next decade. Yearly? OK, that’s $100B/yr. How is that a lot more than what we already spend?

    Greece made it’s own bed. They have a wimpy economy, yet they demanded the American Standard on everything. So what did they get?

    Screwed by their own stupidity.

    Yes, healthcare reform can be bad. We should pass it, then make sure it’s good, like Social Security. And no, I do not mean Social Security Supplemental Income. That’s not good. It’s not funded by OASDI, so it’s welfare.

    But so is Medicaid.

    My point: We already have socialized medicine. Healthcare reform makes it honest, instead of smoke & mirrors.

    magus71 responded:
    April 23, 2010 at 9:44 am

    Well, Niall Ferguson, Harvard Professor, disagrees.


    Guess we’ll see. Everyone who voted for Obama needs to defend whatever he does.

    And yes, you are correct. They can keep raising taxes or pushing the age at which people receive SS. Eventually the system will collapse if you keep doing that. Just like in Greece.


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