First Cause: Evidence of a human soul?

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The First Cause or Cosmological argument is first recorded in the works of Aristotle and Plato, and was later refined by Thomas Aquinas.  The First Cause argument states that the universe must have been created by something that existed before everything else, something that is eternal.

By using the same logic, I’ve developed a hypothesis that the First Cause argument is sufficient to show the existence of a human soul.

Using Aquinas’ definition of First Cause, let us label the First Cause (ie God or whatever one wants to call this power) A.  The motive power, or actual process of creation is B. The end result, that is, the universe is C.  So, A+B=C. Simple enough.

Applying this thinking and formula to humans, let’s consider human thought, impulse and ideas.  Where do they come from?  The secular scientist would say, “the brain, of course”.

But how can the brain spontaneously create an idea, without a First Cause?  Consider the simple act of reaching for a cup of coffee.  Where does a person’s brain get the idea to grab for the cup?  If the thought randomly jumps into a person’s brain, we would expect humans to constantly be doing very ransom things–like jumping in front of moving vehicles for no reason at all.

My argument is that the impulse comes from what could be called a soul.  It is the power behind the flesh.

So, in comparison with the above formula as it relates to humans, A= Soul, B= impulse, C=manifest thought in human brain.

At its foundation, this argument asks: “Where do thoughts come from?”  They cannot be spontaneously generated in the brain, or this randomness would have led to the destruction of Mankind from the get go.  In this case, thoughts need a First Cause, which is the soul, an entity beyond our complete understanding.

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13 thoughts on “First Cause: Evidence of a human soul?

    Tee R said:
    June 26, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    The neural network is responsible for your voluntary and involuntary actions, souls have nothing to do with it. There are plenty of physical diseases and injuries that causes people to respond slow, inaccurately or none at all to external stimuli such as grabbing a cup of coffee.

    Someone with a minor stroke, major stroke, advanced multiple sclerosis or even brain damage has a neurological deficit of varying degrees… what do souls have to do with this!?

    I understand your faith, but faith can’t explain logic nor the knowledge in basic science.

    By the way! A+B = B+A, it’s called the commutative property in algebraic work.

    magus71 responded:
    June 26, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    Tee R,

    My father was crippled by a major head injury 10 years ago. I understand what this can do to a person.

    Certainly, a damaged brain would change how First Cause impulses manifest themselves in the physical body. For instance, if my network router is not fuctioning properly, the information or data that’s transmitted from a server will not manifest properly on my computer. This doesn’t mean the data originates in my router.

    So your argument does not explain where the impulses originate from. As I stated, if thoughts are randomly generated, it would seem our actions would be more random. If they are not random, what is their form before they are in the brain?

    “By the way! A+B = B+A,”

    It can equal any letter I assign to it.

    It is only a hypothesis I have. I realize this.

    Tee R said:
    June 27, 2012 at 12:54 am

    Dude this is basic human AP (Anatomy and physiology) and basic algebra.

    Comparing human neural circuitry to your internet connection is not quite that simple nor really comparable. Human brain will sometimes bridge over the damaged area and use previously unused and undamaged brain area to complete the previous assignment.

    Sometimes this happens, others don’t. If you unplug your router (and not within range from another router or source) you get no internet. Period!. Apples and oranges, man.

    As far as you assigning any letter to your equal?!?! Come on, man! This is basic algebra! Read on “The commutative rules” for basic algebra.

    I respect the fact that you may have faith on some juju of sorts, just avoid mixing it with elementary knowledge. Your argument has no true holding.

    magus71 responded:
    June 27, 2012 at 11:13 am

    Dude, I realize you’re an atheist and think you have all the answers, Tee. Apparently you’re not understanding my argument, because you keep going back to the brain without explaining how a cogent thought is actually formed

    As far as your algebraic lesson, you’re just being argumentative. A+B=C and B+A=A+B. You have no real point here.

    Just as you say, if I unplug my router (brain) I get no internet (bodily function). Thanks for helping my argument!

    magus71 responded:
    June 27, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    By the way, Tee, A+B=B+A is the addition property of equality. So in essence, it is an axiom, an assumed truth.

    Tee R said:
    June 27, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    I go back to the brain because that’s where it all originates! Explaining how a conscious thought originates is quite complex.

    Obviously you believe in fairies, I don’t. I guess that we’ll agree to disagree then.

    And Good Lord! About your math!? That is NOT an axiom! It’s an equation! Seek and compare the definition of both. They are practically opposites!

    magus71 responded:
    June 27, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    Sigh. From what school are you learning math?

    It’s a symeteric axiom. Perhaps my friend Royce, who has a degree in math can jump in and correct me. But It is indeed an axiom.

    I may believe in fairies, but I also believe in math.

    http://www.quickmind.net/mathpathways/algebra1/content/algebra1/topics/axiomequ.htm

    magus71 responded:
    June 27, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    Since you want to give me a lesson in mathematics, let me give you a lesson in philosophy.

    Your statement: “I go back to the brain because that’s where it all originates!”

    This is what is called in philosophy, Circular Reasoning.

    “Description of Begging the Question
    Begging the Question is a fallacy in which the premises include the claim that the conclusion is true or (directly or indirectly) assume that the conclusion is true. This sort of “reasoning” typically has the following form.

    1) Premises in which the truth of the conclusion is claimed or the truth of the conclusion is assumed (either directly or indirectly).

    2) Claim C (the conclusion) is true. ”

    http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html

    Joshua Letchford said:
    June 28, 2012 at 11:48 am

    Ingenious. And it makes sense to me except for one question.

    What about animals? Animals can make choices (say, chase that ball) but they do not have a soul. So their brain is the First Cause. So what is the difference between animals and humans that means that the human First Cause cannot be the chemical reactions of the brain?

    I think I’m just missing something basic here.

    magus71 responded:
    June 28, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Joshua,

    I thought about this, too. The only answer, if my hypothesis is correct, is that animals have souls. Since their brain is less complex, they are less capable of manifesting complex impulses from the soul.

    Of course this is only a hypothesis and I’m willing to accept that I may be wrong. But even as a Christian, I have no problem in believing animals may have souls. The Bible is relatively silent on the matter.

    Many Christians take the position that animals do not have souls, and that is the reason it’s ok to eat them, or that they may not go to heaven etc. However, I tend to agree with CS Lewis’ hypothesis that God constructed a hierarchical world, somewhat like the planets circling a sun. God is the sun, Man is the planets, and animals are moon orbiting those planets. each is under the direct control of the body it orbits. And since we know that God has the right to kill Man, man has a right to kill animals. In both cases, God and Man (at least, Man should) act in a just way when killing.

    Tee R said:
    June 28, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    I certainly did not learn my math nor definitions from you where:
    A = Apples, B = Oranges, C = Makes no sense. Get it now?

    As far as your philosophy lesson on circular reasoning is as bad as your fruit basket algebraic formula. I got one for you too! Try Occam’s razor theory for today’s philosophy lesson.. does not answer the secrets of the universe for you, but it sure makes more sense than the little stories your fairies are telling ya!

    Anyway, as I said a post or three before, I guess that we will just have to agree to disagree,,, later dude!

    You aight, man!
    😉

    Joshua Letchford said:
    June 29, 2012 at 12:01 am

    I don’t know about that. If animals have souls, then they need salvation. Yet Jesus didn not command us to spread the word among the animals, just among all humans (Jews and Gentiles alike). Why would God forget about the animals if they are in just as much need of salvation as the humans?

    Maybe the difference is the difference between soul and breath of life. God put the breath of life into all animals (see the account of Noah’s Flood). Maybe this is the First Cause of those mundane choices like chasing balls, building beaver dams and loving their offspring.

    But only humans have the Image of God, which is also called the soul, which the Bible calls “the heart”. This is the First Cause of all that distinguishes us from the animals- our creativity, inspiration, capacity for relationships and our capacity to think and to create.

    Your logic then still applies. How can neurons generate original and dynamic ideas like the Mona Lisa or space flight? Such inspiration needs a First Cause, an architect if you like, beyond the individual neurons.

    Medic77 said:
    December 21, 2012 at 2:14 am

    I believe animals have souls. If you have spent time with animals they are also intuitive. On your bad days when your soul hurts, they can sense it and are closer to you, watch you with a concerned look. Animals are not given the credit they deserve and in many ways animals help heal wounds that others can not even touch because the hurt is so deep. Tucked away with walls built around it. I won’t touch the math issue because I have no clue. I do believe humans have souls as well.

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