On Libertarianism II

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More ponderings. 

 

A friend of mine on another blog pointed out to me that libertarians seem to be the only group of people that want to leave other people alone. And on that note, I have to agree, and it is a point that draws me to their side. In fact, the differences between me and libertarians that I know are of degrees, not type. 

I noted to my wife that we live in an age consisting of two types of people: Control freaks and those that lust to be controlled. What an oddity. Those that  can mind so much of the business of others clearly don’t have important issues in their own lives to mind. Those that must be controlled display a weakness that places them in the category of useful idiot. 

And of course I’m with libertarians on gun control. Every man has not only the moral right to defend himself, but a moral imperative. All of this under the auspices of rule of law. Again with Burke here: You have the right to have a weapon until you prove a menace to society, Self-protection, not freedom, is the first right of Man. 

And yes, I will teach my daughters how to use a firearm. I will not teach them how to light up a joint or inject heroin. See the difference in the two? 

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7 thoughts on “On Libertarianism II

    apollonian said:
    April 12, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    It’s Either-Or: Pharisaism Or Truth (Christ)

    Of course, there are lots of ref.s for libertarianism, and good authorities (meaning people who do best job of exposition), perhaps the best would be Murray Rothbard. But basically, as I understand, libertarianism considers gov. as it proceeds fm strict reason.

    Hence libertarians typically and most often evoke the original American Constitutional achievement as practical ideal–and then there are lots of actual American sources who lived at the time–like T. Jefferson, John Adams, and many others too. Federalist Papers are another great source of practical consideration upon gov.

    Philosophically, the immediate references for original Americans would be John Locke and Thomas Hobbes by which we have the CONTRACT theory–a good idea, I think.

    But Magus: the ABSOLUTELY fatal flaw about u, personally, is u ALWAYS work to intrude moralism/Pharisaism within ur expositions which then totally subverts all the rest of ur otherwise creditable logic and reason. And u imagine this moralist sanctimony is excusable by means of a redundancy in ur logic–it’s “good” to think “good” is real or something that actually exists or can be understood in an objective manner.

    U simply refuse to grasp “good” is just a conceit–a justification/rationalization for inferiority-complex by which u’re always trying to prove urself “worthy.” Further, for practical purposes, u also refuse to face fact this non-existent “good” and Pharisaism is just excuse for BULLYING.

    U pretend u’re Christian, yet u pontificate exactly like a Pharisee, the murderers of Christ (TRUTH). U don’t seem to grasp basic principle of Christianity that Christian ARE NOT “GOOD”–rather, Christians are sinners, doomed to heck, and cannot do without God’s grace and mercy for salvation.

    Thus for example, u hold w. the worst enemies of USA, Christianity, and all humanity–Israel–and spout their lies and propaganda, to wit, that Iran is some kind of enemy of people of USA, that they cannot be allowed to have nukes, etc.–it doesn’t seem to occur to u u’re acting as mere flunky for Jews/Israel–aside fm fact this is actual TREASON.

    The worst enemy of TRUTH (Christ) is “good,” synonym for Pharisaism–and u need to CHOOSE btwn “good”–Pharisaism–or Christ (TRUTH)–it’s either-or. All ur problems about libertarianism would be cleared-up, I’m sure, if u could only get over this horrific–and absolutely fatal–obsession w. Pharisaism/”good.”

    Lou said:
    April 12, 2014 at 10:26 pm

    Appolloian,
    I just need to point out that your “Christians ARE NOT “GOOD”–rather, Christians are sinners, doomed to heck, and cannot do without God’s grace and mercy for salvation” is NOT the basic principal of Christianity. But your are right in that it is a Pharisaism and it is a popular belief. The message Christ gave to the Pharisees – that they were not of God, but of the Devil because they walked around saying they were holy when they were not – is true today. This message made the Pharisees so angry that they killed Christ. This message still makes people angry today – especially “Christians” who want to hold on to their sin and still be called Christians. Through the power of His resurrection Christ gives Christians everything we need for life and godliness – grace to live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present age. There is no such thing as a Christian sinner. You are either walking in Christ or you are not.

    Since I do not know Magus personally, I don’t know if he believes in the same God as me – the god who enables me to walk according to His word. I also don’t know how you can say that “Iran is some kind of enemy of people of USA” is propaganda. I think even Iran would agree that they are the enemy of the USA. And certainly I don’t them to have “nukes” – not because I’m afraid they would blow up Israel, but I think they would blow up anyone they thought was an enemy – and use their god as the reason for it.

    apollonian said:
    April 13, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    Lou: Christianity is worship of TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH (Gosp. JOHN 14:6) above all/any other principle/precept/ideal–above “faith” (which only means loyalty), love, peace, or phony, non-existent “good.”

    When u talk about “basic principle of Christianity,” u need to understand Christianity is literary allegory and aesthetic vehicle for the philosophy within/behind–Christ assures us there is such thing as truth–hence an objective reality.

    U’re crazy if u think there’s no Christian sinner, pure and simple–u’re not God, and u’re not God’s special little buddy with special dispensation, etc.–God’s NOT ur slave, anymore than God is slave of Jews–u’re just starting up ur own little Judaism, pretending u’re without sin, comrade.

    Lou said:
    April 13, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    Apollonian,
    Call me crazy then, because there are no Christian sinners. There are people who think they are Christians – that hold to a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof. I don’t think that I am God’s special little buddy; I am a child of God. I don’t think I get special dispensation. This is a battle I fight every day to walk according to God’s word.I do not fight people, but powers. I’m not trying to convince you that this is truth. This is my truth. I just wanted you to know that there are Christians that do not hold to the “I’m just a poor sinner…” You either walk in the light or not. Sinners do not walk in the light. If someone calls himself a Christian and walks in darkness, he is a liar and the truth is not in him. By the way, I did not start my own little Judaism, Christ started it, but it is spirit – not earthly. Seriously, I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind, I’m just tired of being lumped into the Christian sinner thing. Even you can see that makes no sense whatsoever.

    apollonian said:
    April 14, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    Christ stood for truth–the idea there’s truth, meaning there’s an OBJECTIVE reality, and truth is what conforms to it–that’s Christianity, LOYALTY to TRUTH, this being ONLY way to Godly happiness (Gosp. JOHN 14:6)

    Lou, u lie (and babble–“walk in the light,” blah, blah, blah) to urself, pretending Christianity is some mystic, complex, idiotic crap–“Judaism”–which is Talmudism, the most anti-Christ lies imaginable. U Lou, are so mixed-up and muddled, u don’t know ur behind fm hole-in-ground.

    Lou said:
    April 14, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    Apo,
    You make me laugh. You keep writing John 14:6 as if it is the only scripture you know. Even Satan quoted scripture and used it for his own purposes. But John also says that God’s word is spirit. So you can’t possibly understand His truth. And resorting to name calling seems childish.

    apollonian said:
    April 14, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    Hey stupid: I not only cited JOHN 14:6; I explained its meaning. TRUTH is only way to happiness–get it? “[C]an’t possibly understand His truth”?–this is typical, Pharisaism, mysticism, and Satanism. Truth, hence Christianity, is NOT rocket-science, fool. Truth is first simply observed, acknowledged–then u can begin to contemplate, u blithering moron. And it’s not “name-calling”–it’s the truth, sucker.

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